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, congressman joe wilson from south carolina, it's like a mandatory question being asked by every politician in washington today, what was your take on it? >> my take was that it was a very small, i thought rather rode, interruption in a very important speech about health care to the american people, and i don't even think about it anymore. >> we're going to play it, senator, for those few americans left out there who haven't heard it. here is president obama being called a liar by south carolina republican joe wilson. >> there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would ensure ille insure illega. this, too, is false. the reform -- the reforms i am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie! >> not true. >> senator, before we get into the specifics of last night's speech and what you thought about it, let me ask you, off of what congressman wilson said, off of a summer where the birthers have been running around the country saying president obama wasn't born here, off of the last week where we had such a furor over the president of the united states spea
matthews. leading off tonight, the gift. when congressman joe wilson shouted out "you lie" at president obama last night, he gave the democrats a gift they hope just keeps on giving. wilson was forced, and that does seem to be the word, forced to apologize today and his washington office has been mobbed, mostly by right wing supporters. democrats hope to turn wilson into the cindy sheehan of the anti-health care reform movement, a clownish figure of ridicule who hurts his own side more than he helps. partly lost in all of the fuss over wilson was the president's speech itself -- did he regain control of the debate? we will deconstruct the speech and see where the debate is headed next. >>> plus, it seems like a south carolina kind of day. governor mark sanford today defended his decision to stay in office. but can he survive the ground swell of calls for his resignation this week by the state's house republicans? >>> back to health care for a moment. could bill clinton become president obama's secret weapon to keep democrats in line when reform comes to a vote? that's in the "politics f
this morning, house debate of a resolution condemning congressman joe wilson. that is followed by "washington journal." following morning speeches, they will work on a bill to promote hybrid vehicle technology and a student financial aid bill. on c-span 3, the senate judiciary committee hears testimony from fbi director robert muller. live coverage of this oversight hearing begins at 10:00 a.m., eastern time. later, another senate hearing looks at the future of manned space flight. we'll hear about recent nasa review of the u.s. space agency. that begins live at 2:30 p.m., eastern, also on cspan 3. you can watch all of our live events on our website, c- span.org. >> congressman ron paul wants to hold the federal reserve accountable for the country's economic crisis he also wants to end the federal reserve. he talks about his new book on c-span 2. on sunday. next month, a unique look at the highest court. its role, traditions, and history. >> i don't think it's an understatement to say this building would not be here if it wasn't for the persistence of chief justice taft. >> he had in mind tha
to get any republican votes and the truth of the matter is that joe wilson is pretty much in the main stream of the modern republican party. it's dominated by people like joe wilson at of talk radio and the people you see at these tea bag things. i'm not shocked by any of this. >> i guess, terry, you're not part of that main stream of the republican party anymore, is that right? >> well, i'm not sure how to answer that, i have always looked forward to a bipartisan conversation about health care, but the simple fact is that you often only barack obama has had bipartisan rhetoric, the process here and honest observation of this process has been in the house, there was absolutely no input by the republicans, wasn't allowed to be any input by the republicans, this is written by the democratic leadership and nancy pelosi, nancy pelosi's bill is what they're considering. in the senate, it's only been one or two republicans that have been invited to a few meetings, so i think at the end of this process, we're going to see a democratic product, not a bipartisan product and that's just the way
go back to the heckle heard around the world. congressman joe wilson was not widely known before last night. he is now. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins us from the hill. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. i have talked to members of congress that have been here for decades. they said the kind of disruption we heard hasn't happened before. the issue that got him so upset touched off a wider conversation abts illegal immigrants. it was a stunning outburst. >> lie! >> oh! >> reporter: south carolina congressman, joe wilson accused the president of lying in a fit of anger. cameras waited outside his office. he was told to apologize, fast. >> i heard from the leadership they wanted me to contact the white house and state that my statements were inappropriate. i did. >> reporter: the president was clearly displeased last night, but gracious today. >> i'm a big believer that we all make mistakes. he apologized quickly. i'm aappreciate yative of that. >>reporter: in years past, other presidents heard murmurs. this hit a new level. republican leaders didn't want his conduct to reflect
! " for his part, joe wilson apologized. the president accepted. now, may i be an adult here and ask if the president and joe wilson, the two parties directly affected and involved, did they not solve it like two grown-ups should? did joe wilson not do the right thing by calling him up and saying i'm sorry, mr. president trvetion inappropriate, and did the president not do the right thing and say i accept your apology, i understand passions get the best of us. why, for the love of pete are we still talking about this? i said last week i understand wilson's frustration, but i also said i didn't agree with the way he eh pressed it, but -- with the way he expressed it, but you know what? neither did joe wilson. that's why he apologized. now, after the apology, the charges are not just that it was out of line, no, no. now it is somehow or another joe wilson is transformed into a racist. the charge of racist is coming from everyone. jimmy carter is involved. jim, i sure miss you. this is so ridiculous that in america in 2009 we have a former president who says if you're opposed to the pre
capitol hill. and beyond -- congressman joe wilson heckles the president during his health care address. he may have apologized, wilson, that is. but he's not backing down. >> on these issues i will not be muzzled. i will speak up and speak loudly against this risky plan. >> so who is joe wilson? and will his outburst put him in the political penalty box? for less than $3. thanks to walmart. just two times a week saves my family over $500 a year. save money. live better. walmart. (announcer) we understand. you need to save money. (announcer) we understand. could save 'em hundreds on car just telinsurance.e geico it's actually doing it. gecko vo: businessmen say "hard work equals success." well, you're looking at, arguably, the world's most successful businessgecko. gecko vo: first rule of "hard work equals success." gecko vo: that's why geico is consistently rated excellent or better in terms of financial strength. gecko vo: second rule: "don't steal a coworker's egg salad, 'specially if it's marked "the gecko." come on people. i'm more active, i eat right, and i switched to new one a d
joe wilson as democrats move closer to their own verbal smack down. >> i will not be muscled. >> whether he's muzzled or not, can there be a winner in this lingering back and forth? plus words from michael steele directed at house speaker nancy pelosi. >> later, remember him? >> major combat operations in iraq have ended. >> despite his own slumps, bush 43 according to a former speechwriter often ridiculed other politicians on both sides of the aisles. wait until you hear what he allegedly said about barack obama and hillary clinton. >> the journalist who threw his shoes at president bush said he would do it all again. >> a town hall exchange for the ages. >> don't feel my leg and tell me it's raining. >> thank you. i wouldn't dignify you by peeing on your leg. >> all that and more this hour on msnbc. >> good afternoon. i'm tamron hall live in new york. >> aemds david shuster live in washington. key democrats have pointed to this day, september 15th, as the deadline for crucial bipartisan senate panel working on health care reform. in the big picture, the intriguing silence f
of this crisis. >>> plus, no more apologies. congressman joe wilson says he is done saying sorry after his outburst during the president's address to congress. but will house leaders demand more action? we will talk live to a congressman who wants wilson to fight back. >>> breaking news in the murder of yale student, annie le. police say they know who killed her. le's body was found stuffed in a campus building wall on the day she was supposed to be married. we are live with the late breaking details. >>> no mercy for drivers. cash-strapped cities targeting parked cars more than ever. soaring ticket prices, more meter maids and more drivers getting the boot. are city officials crossing the line? >>> yo, taylor, i'm really happy for you, i'm gonna let you finish, but beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. >> kanye's swift insult much the rapper rudely interrupting the country star's vma moment and it did not end there all that and more, now on the big picture. good afternoon, everybody, good afternoon, tamron, i'm david shuster live in washington. >> i'm tamron hall live in new yor
---www.ncicap.org--- bret: next on "special report" democrats want to hold joe wilson's feet to the fire for calling the president a lie liar. we will tell you what is in the healthcare bill that is finally coming out of a key senate committee, an caught on tape, part four, another acorn worker falls. all that, plus brit hume's analysis and the fox all-stars, right here, right now. bret: welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. house democrats late today pushed through a message expressing disapproval toward south carolina republican joe wilson for his "you lie!" outburst during president obama's address last week. the vote was 240-179. chief washington correspondent jim an is here with the late-breaking details and the politics behind it. good evening, jim. >> hello, bret. when congressman joe wilson refused to apologize again, house democrats declared his conduct was a breach of decorum that discredited the house. steny hoyer said the issue is clear. >> and that issue is whether we are able to proceed with a degree of civility and decorum that our rules and democracy contemplate and requ
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of motion like a censure. so it seem it is an either/or situation. obviously the joe wilson story will go into next week and have it live for another day. >> mark murray, nbc news, deputy political director. thanks as always. go long horn, right? >> exactly. >> that is big picture. you can all watch every morning. logon to firstread.msnbc.com. >> another exciting week. we'll be watching "meet the press" and all the other stuff that happens. in the meantime prg does it for "the big picture." >> and up next, "hardball" with chris matthews. chuck todd is sitting in tonight. "hardball" starts right now. >>> the president's political health. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chuck todd in washington filling in for chris matthews who will be back on monday. leading off tonight, image problem. the outburst by congressman joe wilson has us asking, are we at the point where we can say the intense opposition to barack obama in some parts of the country is about more than health care reform? stimulus plan? is it also about ideology? regional differences and perhaps even race? what is more
. joe wilson's top ten excuses in the "hardball sideshow." we'll begin with white house press secretary robert gibbs. sorry we didn't see you earlier today. we figured we would drag you out and make do you a mini version. >> i ended up in this room one way or the other, right? >> i want to play for you a familiar sound bite from the president's speech wednesday night. let's take a listen. >> while there remains some significant details to be ironed out, i believe a broad consensus exists for the aspect of the plan i just outlined. consumer protections for those with insurance, an exchange that allows individuals and small businesses to purchase affordable coverage, and a requirement that people who can afford insurance get insurance. >> now robert, the president unveiled his plan on wednesday. it is the president's plan. you have it on your website. whitehouse.gov. it is only 3 1/2 pages right now. and he talk about, we saw the details. when are we going to see the details? as you found out in july and august when there weren't details provided by you guys, other people filled in the bl
right now, he accused the president of lying. now democrats want joe wilson to pay. they want to smack him with a penalty, but republicans say it all smacks of political payback. chief assertions, the commander in chief says the economy is improving because of his policies and the fed chief says the recession is now likely over. does that ring true for you? >>> and disturbing the dead. a cemetery is accused of dumping remains to resell grave sites, and a former worker shockingly tells cnn what he did. i'm wolf blitzer in cnn's command center for breaking news, politics and extraordinary reports from around the world. you're in "the situation room." >>> but first, news just coming into "the situation room," what he did was never quite done before, and now democrats want to punish him in a unique way. republican congressman joe wilson of south carolina. his recent scream may incite 'high-profile smackdown. >> the reforms -- the reforms that i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie. >> that's not true. >> although wilson apologized to the president for sho
maría elena salinas. >> muy buenas noches el congresista joe wilson que hace días lle gritó mentiroso al presidente obama con 224 votos se aprobó una resolución que rechazó lo realizado del congresista contra el presidente obama, no lleva ningún castigo pero si refleja el tema de los inmigrantes se ha involucrado en el debate de la reforma de salud. >> el congresista republicano joe wilson enfrentó una resolución de desaprobación de su conducta en la cámara de república antes por gritarle al presidente que miente al asegurar que los indocumentados no reciben beneficios de una reforma al cuidado de lasalud. y por ri se negarle a disculpar sus colegas. >> acusó al liderazgo demócrata de ssofocar las voces. no ayudaremos a las familias a tener atención médica. así y todo revivió el debate. su posición se discutió entre 47 comentaristas radiales del país que transmiten desde la capital convocados por controles mi d a migratori migratorios. >> problemas latinos probst pap para las personas en méxico también. >> como los indocumentadosh@ aumentan los gastos en o dicen. >>
. i expect that resolution will pass. disapproving of the behavior by congressman joe wilson. but a lot of people have noted it's been a pretty sad day. we're seeing, obviously, democracy work, but this isn't one of congress' brighter chapters. >> and mark, there is any chance that pete stark gets in any trouble for that comment about not wanting to waste urine on somebody. if you're saying that in a town hall, anything goes? >> well, you know, there is a lot of bad behavior that's been going around. pete stark has been known for outbursts like that before. so i'm not sure anything is going to come of it. obviously reports on that never good news for a democrat or a republican. >> indeed. mark murray, nbc news deputy political director thanks as always. check out first read first thing every morning, updated throughout the day. check back, logon to firstread.msnbc.com. and tamron, big day tomorrow. >> yeah. it is a big day tomorrow. i'm interested to see what happens there on the house floor. we'll be talking about that as well, david. a lot of people twittering us about it.
of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? the gop's civility crisis. as joe wilson goes -- >> you lie! so goes the crackpot faithful. >> last night we heard our president address his country. [ booing ] >> clarence page as the political party continues to careen off the tracks. and melissa harris-lacewell on how our political discourse came to this. also the art of turning i'm sorry into send cash. >> go to joewilson.com to defeat patriot opponents of government-run health care. >> it takes a much better actor than joe wilson to get away with faking sincerity. fighting health care reform at all costs. if it finally passes and becomes law, governor tim pawlenty of minnesota says his state still might not stand for it. >> it may be a viable option. >> what do the tenthers have against people with pre-existing conditions? the war in afghan stain. eight years to the day after the attack on our soil that provoked it. prominent democrats say more u.s. troops are not the answer to security problems there. >> we need a surge of afghan forces. >> a security scare in d.c. on september 11. a coa
about tomorrow? the gop's civility crisis, as joe wilson goes -- >> you lie! >> so goes the crackpot faithful. >> last night we heard our president address this country. >> clarence page on the political ramifications as the republican party continues to careen off the tracks. and melissa lacewell on how our political discourse came to this. >>> also, the art of turning "i'm sorry" into "send cash." >> go to joewilsonforcongress.com and contribute to my efforts to defeat the proponents of government-run health care. >> it takes a much better actor than joe wilson to get away with faking sincerity. fighting health care reform at all costs. if it finally passes and becomes law, governor tim pawlenty of minnesota says his state still might not stand for it. >> depending on what the federal government comes out with here, asserting the tenth amendment may be a viable option. >> what do the tenthers have against people with pre-existing conditions? >>> the war in afghanistan. eight years to the day after the attack on our soil that provoked it. prominent democrats say more u.s. troops are
. >>> and later the manufactured distraction from the right wing about president obama's advisers. and joe wilson, he now agrees with nancy pelosi that we need to have a more rational debate on health care. and joe wilson finally falls victim to the writers of "saturday night live." you're watching "countdown" on msnbc. - ( music playing ) - a work of art. a finely-tuned machine. a sanctuary. a command center. ( both revving ) a sophisticated sedan. a sports car. together. nissan maxima, the four-door sports car. now get a new nissan maxima for 0% apr financing for 60 months. >>> coming up, what you've been waiting for, the values voting, and the new masculinity. markos joins us to discuss the values really taking center stage at that gathering. >>> and later, nancy pelosi calls for a more responsible national discourse. so naturally, fox news responds that she's planting thoughts of assassination in people's minds. ahead on "countdown." what matte. introducing blueprint. what matte. blueprint is free and only for chase customers. it lets you choose what purchases you want to pay in full to avoid
years -- it joe wilson had been the other joe wilson, a husband of a valerie plame -- >> he wasn't in congress. >> he would be carried out on the shoulders of my crew on the right as a national hero for speaking truth to power. in fact, on the issue of illegal immigrants, joe wilson, who was disrespectful d should not have said that, was correct. absolutely correct. >> he really wasn't. >> language of the bill specifically prohibits -- >> it does. >> laws and america are not self enforcing. if laws were, we would not have illegal aliens. if there were laws against illegal immigration. >> so it doesn't matter? >> it matters if you have enforcement mechanisms and the democrats voted against requiring a proof of citizenship. >> they voted against provisions that would have made it so that citizens would very often not have gotten medical care. >> they voted against a provision where you are required to prove your citizenship. in absence of that, there is absolutely nothing that would prevent illegal aliens from getting that kind -- >> that is at variance with the truth. >> just sayi
, the outburst by joe wilson has us asking, are we at the point to say the intense opposition is about more than health care reform, stimulus plans, is it also about ideology, regional differences and race? the support he's received in the south carolina district. is it threatened to harden the republican party reputation now? we'll talk to two members of congress. plus, september 11 is the reason we waged war in afghanistan. what is our mission there today. richard engel has been in the region recently and will give their take on the present state of afghanistan. it's the latest dwolment in an important week for president obama which included health care and his back to school speech. press secretary robert gibbs will do a briefing here. plus, with an interview sunday, we'll ask, are we seeing too much of president obama? it's all in the politics fix. it wouldn't be a political scandal without david letterman. that e's in the "hardball" side show. we begin with press house secretary robert gibbs. robert, sorry we didn't see you earlier today. we thought we would drag you out. >> i'll be in this
in question, republican joe wilson of south carolina says that the outburst was spontaneous and prompted by obama's statement that illegal immigrants would not be covered by health insurance. >> yeah, i know her. >> all right. a baltimore area woman didn't have to watch the president's speech on tv. you just saw her right there. darlene daniels was one of 15 people invited to that speech to congress by the president himself. she was chosen because of the problems she had paying for health care. she got to sit with the first lady during the speech and later got to meet the president. >> i was so nervous. i couldn't move. >> were your hands sweating? >> yes! i didn't within the my hands sweating if people were going to shake my hands. when i final i had got there i just stood there. he was like, get over here! i'm thinking, should i move or what? you know? then he hugged me and shook my hands. >> ms. daniels will never forget that visit. she is also getting sms special, an official white house photograph of her with the obamas. >>> here we go. it is purple friday. a year ago, kyle boller
with with with cnn for president obama's speech noon on cnn. >>> president obama speaks on congressman joe wilson's apology and promises he will own whatever health care reform bill passes. >>> end of the line for an alleged serial bank robber. all the details for you and we're taking your comments as well. should we order panda blossom, panda moon... how about chinese at home with new wanchai ferry? you can make it in just 14 minutes mmmh, orange chicken. great. i didn't feel like going out anyway (announcer) wanchai ferry. restaurant quality chinese in your grocer's freezer back playing in the afternoon. excedrin back and body has two ingredients to block and relieve the pain. doesn't your whole body deserve excedrin strength relief? excedrin. what ache? car insurance company in the nation. but, it's not like we're kicking back, now, havin' a cuppa tea. gecko vo: takes lots of sweat to become that big. gecko vo: 'course, geckos don't literally sweat... it's just not our thing... gecko vo: ...but i do work hard, mind you. gecko vo: first rule of "hard work equals success." gecko vo: that's why g
the right wing about president obama's advisers. and joe wilson, he now agrees with nancy pelosi that we need to have a more rational debate on health care. and joe wilson finally falls victim to the writers of "saturday night live." you're watching "countdown" on msnbc. introducing blueprint. blueprint is free and only for chase customers. it lets you choose what purchases you want to pay in full to avoid interest...with full pay. and those you split... you decide how to pay over time. if having a plan matters. chase what matters. create your own blueprint at chase.com/blueprint. >>> coming up, what you've been waiting for, the values voting, and the new masculinity. markos joins us to discuss the values really taking center stage at that gathering. >>> and later, nancy pelosi calls for a more responsible national discourse. so naturally, fox news responds that she's planting thoughts of assassination in people's minds. ahead on "countdown." pepto-bismol. nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. yeah, my buddy's got all that. do we need to buy a bunch of different medici
. the liar, liar yelling is a tribute of sorts to south carolina republican congressman joe wilson. his "you lie" outburst at president obama during the president's address to congress is apparently becoming the right's new drill, baby, drill, sort of. as you can tell from the podium at which mr. cantor is standing, a main organizer of the 9/12 march this weeks is freedomworks. it's the grassroots organization headed up by dick armey. the march is also sponsored in part by a group we touched on on last night's show. they are the national association of rural land owners, or narlo. at narlo's website, you're informed that the second american revolution that has just begun. join it or buy a gun, because you are going to need it. just this summer, narlo posted online a video forecasting massive civil unrest, succession of the states, and then, yippee, a new american civil war. this is the way that the conservative movement is commemorating the anniversary of 9/11 this year. for context and for contrast, this is the sort of thing that the administration is doing to commemorate the anniversary of
. they feared, they didn't want -- >> democrats are racialists and some people say joe wilson was racialist. >> what he is saying i think is true about burris. i can't believe how they have ganged up on him. he's not as good as the other senators? >> geraldo the idea is i had conversations with harry reid reed and senator hernandez. we talked about the senate seat. they would be oh helpful in varying degrees lisa man began healthcare and low taxes. if that didn't happen it was my preference to have an african american in the senate. in my discussion they feared jesse jackson junior sammy davis. >> the book is "the governor." we send our condolences on the former chief of staff family. >>> democrats say he has to apologize on the floor of congress. south carolina joe wilson says been there, done that. what should happen now. juan williams and the great you lie debate coming up. (announcer) take your time to find the right time a clinically proven, low-dose tablet for erectile dysfunction you take every day so you can be ready anytime the moment is right. tell your doctor about your medical c
piece of trivia like congressman joe wilson as a starting point. to explain that and more of president carter's remarks about racism and criticism of president obama, ladies and gentlemen, here is rachel maddow. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, keith. thank you very much for that. and thank you at home for staying with us for the next hour. >>> governor ed rendell of pennsylvania will be joining us this hour. a doctor will be joining us as well. he was national security adviser to president carter. but, of course, he's ben known here at rockefeller center as mika's dad. dr. brzezinski's old pass, former president jimmy carter, did tonight call much of the opposition to president obama racist. that is just in tonight. we have the footage for you. it's all coming up. plus i pledge that for the first time ever on this show i will say something very important about keanu reeves. i promise. that's all coming up at this hour. >>> but we begin tonight with a dramatic day in d.c. republican congressman joe wilson of south carolina officially reprimanded by the house of representatives to
now infamous. amid a skrum of cameras and reporters, south carolina congressman joe wilson tried to explain himself today. >> it was spontaneous. it was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens. >> reporter: when president obama told congress wednesday night that a democratic health care overhaul will not cover illegal immigrants, wilson shouted from his seat, accusing the president of lying. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie! >> that's not true. >> reporter: the unusual outburst drew boos from democrats and the glare to end all glares from speaker nancy pelosi. >> it was stunning. to hear such a statement made on the floor of the house when the president of the united states was speaking. >> reporter: wilson quickly apologized and republicans refused to defend him. many where many, including california's dan lund gren say they understood why he was upset. >> i would expect more civility on the floor. but i understood his frustration. republicans offered an amendment specifically to disallow illegal aliens
," the other person people are talking about, of course, who was there, congressman joe wilson. he's the man with the outburst during the president's speech where he was attempting to unite democrats and as the president said, he was also trying to bring in conversation from the right. wilson shouted out, "you lie" when the president was hitting back at claims that his health care plan would provide insurance to illegal immigrants. >> the reform -- the reform i am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie! >> not true. >> the president was right. it is not true. here's the wording on illegal health care reform legislation, approved by three house committees. quote, nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability, credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully president in the united states. an hour after the speech last night, wilson issued a written statement apologizing for his outbursts calling it inappropriate and regrettable. president obama accepted his apology but today wilson indicated he was asked to apology. >> i last night
to enjoy a meal. >>> we'll have from joe wilson. >> we need to discuss the >>> the jewish new year begins at sundown tonight. it begins a period of personal reflection. they celebrate with foods including apples dipped in honey. it continues through yon kippur. >>> prince george's county chapter leaders have a lot of change. when the group first formed, there were no black police officers, judges or elected officials. >>> president obama will be the guest on "meet the press" sunday. the main subject is health care. david gregory asked if he thinks, the president, that is, thinks race is a factor in the debate. >> this week, you had former president jimmy carter say, most, not a little, but most, is related to racism. do you agree with that? >> no. i said during the campaign there are some people who think through the prism of race when it comes to evaluating me and my candidacy absolutely. sometimes they vote for me for that reason and agairns me for that reason. i'm sure it was true during the c campaign and now. >> "meet the press" begins at 10:30 here on nbc 4. >>> the first lady is ma
of joe wilson about small segments of the population which may be important, but it's happening at the expense of the 174 million. how do we advance the conversation about real choice for most people in america? >> well, it's actually the case when you look at the senate finance bill, what they have done. they have taken insurance group, employer insurance like you get, and they walled it off. they said we will create a new system to help people get insurance who are on their own or uninsured or work for small businesses. this is not the $47 million uninsured. it doesn't include people who are now uninsured, or buy coverage on their own. it's a decent segment of the population. i believe it would be better to let everybody choose. ron wyden, this is a bill he has been pushing. and that would let people that have insurance have the opportunity to choose a different plan. that's going to be a bit of a struggle. we heard before employers don't like this. they like to keep control and they don't like the idea of losing the control, and that's a big problem here. have you to sort of
during president obama's speech to congress this week. but congressman joe wilson tells fox news he's not going to do it. he's already apologized to the president, but is enough enough? should he heed house speaker nancy pelosi's request to form formally apologize on the house floor and what will be his punishment if he doesn't? >> i'm shannon bream live from washington. angry outbursts like the one from representative joe wilson that tens of thousands of tea party protesters who descended on washington, those are the visible signs this weekend about how angry americans are about healthcare reform. he's insisting he has no interest in signing a healthcare bill that won't work. how far away are we from any bill at all? they took it to the talk shows today. what do you have? >> president obama turns to congress to write the bill and the democrats are defending them in the angry town hall in the summer break. now the president is ready to lead the battle himself. in full campaign mode at rally in minnesota yesterday and is planning more events this week. the president says he should be
in jeopardy. this could be the president's final opportunity to change any minds. >>> joe wilson rebuked in the house of representatives because he called po fo a liar. but wilson stayed defiant. he refused to offer up any more apologies. and another school bus beating caught on tape. teams cheering as a kid is pummel pummeled. >> and a.c.o.r.n. is under fire, calling for investigations and demands tonight that president obama cut off all, all government ties to the organization. we'll have the latest report on a.c.o.r.n., a report you'll see only here. >>> good evening, everybody. preaching to the choir, that's what president obama hopes he was doing today. in three campaign style speeches, president obama went to union country trying to shore up big labor support of his health care plans. plans that by most measures are in big trouble. it was the beginning of a planned health care media blitz. a blitz that will have the president appear on five sunday talk shows and david letterman. any legitimate efforts to recruit republicans seemed to have been abandoned by the administration, even
congressman joe wilson who apologized. president obama quickly accepting his apology. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegal. >> you lie! >> that's not true. >> i'm a big believer that we all mick mistakes. he apologized quickly. and without aquif indication. i'm appreciative of that. i do think, as i said last night, we have to get to the point where we can have a conversation about big important issues that matter to the american people, without name calling, without the assumption of the worst in other people's motives. >> the president saying apology accepted. the controversy still growing. who is congressman wilson? who thinks he went too far? who actually agrees with him? the raw politics from joe johns. >> reporter: this is republican congressman joe wilson, after last night, he's the man everyone wanted to hear from today. >> last night, we heard from the leadership. they wanted me to contact the white house. and state that my statements were inappropriate. i did. >> reporter: inappropriate? not everyone agrees. ? his health care speech last
, out of joe wilson's dramatic "you lie" demonstration there in congress, he's a member of the house, but i think he projected an image that a lot of people are seeing for republicans in general in the house and the senate. when you look at the poll that shows even republicans saying that the representatives seem to be motivated more by partisan concerns than concerns for the country. as ronald widen says, polls are acceptable, but that's the trending that indicates the public option side is winning. >> one of the things that seems to hold fast in the polls is confusion. the majority do not understand what's being talked about. doesn't matter how many times the president goes out there and tries to explain it. he still has not succeeded. delivering an explanation that voters, a majority of voters feel comfortable with. is there anything he can do or anything you expect this process to do as the congress moves on this that will help clarify for the public what it is that these guys are voting on? >> the polls in the focus groups indicate a lot of people, while they support the public
, is america coming apart? and we mention what joe wilson said and the screaming and calling the demonstrators last summer, fashionists and evil-mongers, it's not simply that americans disagree with each other, it seems like they're coming to detest one another in a lot of ways in their behavior politically. not only politically, but on racial issues and social issues and cultural issues. the old unity we used to have even when we disagreed sharply, politically. is really gone. you really ask yourself what is it that really holds us together as a people? >> well, you know, mika, it is a great day to think about it. and i don't usually blame the media. i think it's easy to blame the media for everything. i think usually americans get the media they deserve. i don't think that's the case any more. i think in this season there are people that make tens of millions of dollars by dividing this country. by preaching hate on the far right and preaching hate on the far left. and instead of focusing on things that bring us together as a country, they make their money, they drive their ratings, they sel
"hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. leading off tonight, rebuked. joe wilson has been officially rebuked by the house of representatives for his "you lie" outburst during president obama's health care speech last week. the vote was 240 ayes to rebuke wilson and 179 nays. 12 democrats voted against and 7 republicans for it. we have a house democrat and house republican to debate whether the house was right to bring up this resolution against wilson or whether wilson apologized enough. medical chart. when it comes to the human body, the 98.6 is normal and healthy. when it comes to passing the health care bill the number is 60, 60 senators to beat a filibuster and get the bill passed. the democrats have 59 seats. now they need one republican to vote for the health care bill. that is it if they can get all nine democrats aboard. let's do a hard check of the numbers. also, bad, bad, bad. a year after lehman brothers went belly-up, triggering the global financial meltdown, two journalists are coming to "hardball" tonight so say nothing as changed. wall street biggies st
congressman joe wilson makes that infamous outburst. he is rolling in the dough. >> and i sit down with robert ehrlich to get his thoughts on the president' . >> there is late word tonight that the u.s. census bureau is severing partnership with acorn. the news comes after another tape is released today of acorn workers apparently helping people cheat on taxes. tape released yesterday caught workers at a baltimore acorn office showing people how to claim taxes on illegal activities like prostitution. acorn said it was an isolated incident but toed the filmmaker released a new similar tape. this one in a dc acorn office. >> taxpayers are just upset. the stimulus package had granted them the ability to get billons of dollars of taxpayer money. and that's not stimulating the economy. >> the employees involved in baltimore and dc offices fired. and acorn said it has no plans to pursue the new stimulus dollars, it is now eligible to compete for. >> and that brings us to the question of the day. should the fired acorn workers also face criminal charges? so far 87 percent say yes. and 13 percent say
. >>> when we return, congressman joe wilson says no way for demand from house democrats he apologize, again, this time on the house floridaer for that "you lie" outburst during president obama's speech. are democrats pushing this too far? >>> the senate is develop nothing the possible cancer risk for cell phone users. we will take a closer look at the dangers ourselves. >>> another outrageous meltdown for kanye west. this was at the mtv awards. you know, here is a teenager just trying to given a acceptance speech. what's he doing there? we will break it all down for you there ahead. ♪ need a lift? hey buddy, i appreciate the ride, you know. no problem. ♪ mind if i take a shortcut? yeah, sure. ♪ i knew the subaru legacy was the smart choice... what i didn't expect... was the fun. the all-new subaru legacy. feel the love. gathering dust, as pollen floats through the air. but with the strength of zyrtec ® , the fastest, 24-hour allergy relief, i promise not to wait as long to go for our ride. with zyrtec ® i can love the air ™ . you should know, bayer aspirin is one of most studied,
to introduce a resolution of disapproval against congressman joe wilson as early as tomorrow unless he apologizes on the house floor for yelling out "you lie" during the president's speech last week. the republican from south carolina says that is not going to happen. >> i've apologized one time, the apology was accepted by the president, by the vice president, who i know. i have not apologize -- i am not apologizing again. >> congressman wilson was on the house floor just a couple of hours ago, and take a listen to what he said. >> during my 25 years of serving the public in the state senate and congress, i have not seen such passionate events full of patriots, 95% of whom support health insurance reform, but not a government takeover. >> kelly o'donnell is nbc's capitol hill correspondent. he was on the floor as tell us about the resolution and what kind of pressure is there in this vote? >> certainly it appears joe wilson was trying to send a message out to his supporters, and he's got lots of things going on, trying to get people behind him who are like-minded. now, on the democrat
at a capitol hill. house democrats are about to condemn republican congressman joe wilson for his outburst over whether illegals will get health care coverage. on the other side, senate democrats are working on a new health care bill that will only now block illegals from buying coverage on the government's dime. texas congressman john carter says that proves wilson got it right and today's resolution is a big waste of time and money. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- neil: you are saying his colleague of yours could be censored or whatever you guys do to people who misbehaved for all the wrong reasons. >> did have it right. the protections to keep illegal aliens from being covered by the bill were not in the bill, and it is proven by what the senate is doing to make sure they have corrected that. neil: that is a bit of irony, but can i ask you this -- if you censored or condemned -- i guess there are variations of that -- what happens? where do you go? >> i do not think this censure follows any format. it is kind of
along this evening on a righted matter. joe wilson called racist by maureen dowd. we will take a look at the charge. karl rove on president obama's appearance on 60 minutes. looks like the public health care option is dead. diext if you had a hoveround power chair? the statue of liberty? the grand canyon? it's all possible with a hoveround. tom: hi i'm tom kruse, inventor and founder of hoveround. when we say you're free to see the world, we mean it. call today and get a free hoveround information kit that includes a video and full color brochure. dennis celorie: "it's by far the best chair i've ever owned." and if you qualify get it for little or no money. jim plunkitt: "no cost. absolutely no cost to me." breaking news...when you call today, we'll include a free hoveround collapsible grabber with the purchase of your power chair. it reaches, it grabs, it's collapsible and it's portable. it goes wherever you go. get it free while supplies last. declare your independence call now, you'll be glad you did. call the number on your screen. bill: more fallout from joe wilson interrupting t
" said he did not plan the outburst. representative joe wilson denied speculation that he might have planned to disrupt the president's health care speech to congress. >> when it was stated that it wouldn't apply to illegal aliens i just -- i just couldn't -- i truly had to speak out. >> did you snap? >> no, no. i didn't snap. it wasn't premeditated? >> i didn't snap if i napped i would have kept on objecting but i didn't. >> now, wilson shouted after president obama said the illegal immigrants would not get free health care under the white house plan. wilson has since apologized. did the president lie? a review by our sister network, cnn, shows he did not but shows the president's plan could force illegal immigrants to buy health coverage but they'd have to pay. but republicans say illegal immigrants could end up getting federal subsidies because they say that there are not enough requirements to verify somebody's citizenship. >>> the shuttle "discovery" crew has a plan and a backup plan to try to get home today. they'll try to land at kennedy space center before 6:00 p.m. eastern.
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